I don;t think I ever met Liz Phair, which is odd, since I certanly hung around Idful and was there when Brad Wood was recording the Shrimp Boat stuff, and of course Elizabeth was doing Around the Coyote in Wicker Park. Oh well, it was definitely the ajax of Chicago on the music/art scene, and I was hoping that Sam would catch on the star. Duende came out, but didn’t [&hellip